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Integrating psychedelics into therapeutic work: webinar replay

Recorded December 17, 2025. A conversation for therapists about expanded states of consciousness, retreat-based programs, and supporting clients before and after.

About this conversation

More clients are asking their therapists about psychedelics. In this conversation, Fede Menapace of Beckley Retreats talks with Veronika Gold, a licensed marriage and family therapist and co-founder of Polaris Insight Center, and Kosu Boudreau, a Beckley Retreats facilitator and therapist with more than 25 years in spiritual care, about what therapists need to know to talk with clients confidently.

Veronika outlines what research on different compounds is exploring, and why she sees the client as the expert in their own process. Kosu explains why a thorough intake matters, who a retreat setting may suit compared with a clinic, and how preparation and integration work across a Beckley Retreats program. The panel closes with audience questions.

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Veronika Gold on the client as the expert

19:05

The big shift in this paradigm is that the client is the expert. We have the information, but ultimately it's a collaboration.

Kosu Boudreau on intake

20:30

It really highlights for me the importance of a very thoughtful and thorough intake process.

Kosu Boudreau on the group

26:03

Most of our participants say that connecting with a like-minded community, with people willing to enter into connection with vulnerability and intention, is almost as profound as the psilocybin itself.

Kosu Boudreau on integration

29:15

This is where people return to their lives, discover what's new, and discover where changes may need to be made.

Questions this replay answers

Who might a retreat setting suit, compared with a clinic?

Kosu describes clinics with direct medical oversight as a better fit for people with higher medical risk or who want close one-to-one supervision. A retreat may suit people who are comfortable in a group and want more space, nature and community. Either way, she starts with a careful conversation about medical history, medications, support system and values.

What are common reasons someone may not be suitable?

Veronika lists heart, liver or kidney disease as flags for closer review, some medications, and a history of manic episodes, psychotic disorders or some personality disorders. Read who should not attend a psilocybin retreat.

How does a Beckley Retreats program support clients before and after?

Four weeks of preparation through an app and group calls, integration days between the two sessions on retreat, and six weeks of integration support afterwards, at a time when people are most open to change.

Where can therapists learn more?

Visit the Therapist Resource Hub for the therapist practicum, partner program and resources for talking with clients.

Questions to reflect on

  • Which of your clients have asked about psychedelics, and how did you respond?
  • What would you want to know before referring a client to a retreat?
  • How could you support a client's integration afterwards?

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Meet the Speakers

Fede Menapace

Fede Menapace

Chief Growth Officer, Beckley Retreats | Former COO of MAPS

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Kosu Boudreau

Lead Facilitator, Beckley Retreats | Trauma psychotherapist and integration specialist

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